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1 Background
2 Features/Requirements
3 Forum Structure
4 Volunteers and Testers
5 Next steps

Background

There is no doubt that the forum module has been one of the most active, if not the most active component of a community site. It allows anyone to search for discussions almost about anything, and can start discussions about any new topic, news, or rumors. Over at talk.maemo.org, the forums/fora have been used to announce new developments, get help from the community to test apps, and suggest enhancements to the operating system.

In the first online MeeGo Community Meeting, it was identified that a Forum is one of the components that need to be added ASAP.

The main challenge for MeeGo is to properly bridge Drupal, MeeGo.com's content management system (CMS), and the Forum system to make Single Sign-On (SSO) work.

Features/Requirements

The software of choice to be used for the forum system has not been decided upon. The following table shows the proposed forum software that can be used:

Forum Software	Drupal Forum	phpBB3	vBulletin	FluxBB
SSO with other MeeGo services	Component of Drupal itself.	Drupal phpBB3 Bridges latest versions of Drupal and phpBB3 to provide SSO and synchronisation. A selection of the options from the project page: Embedded inside drupal Replace Drupal comments with phpbb Authentication and synchronyzation in both directions	Drupal vB, a Drupal module project, is currently the only add-on that supports the latest version of Drupal, and bridges the two systems. Drupal vB allows the following: existing vBulletin users to log in to Drupal (not needed since we are starting the forum from scratch) new vBulletin users to log in to Drupal (not needed since we are starting the forum from scratch) existing Drupal users to log in to vBulletin (after initial export) new Drupal users to log in to vBulletin a single/shared sign-on when logging in via Drupal updating user data in vBulletin upon update in Drupal deleting users in vBulletin upon deletion in Drupal Me Aliases is another Drupal module project that needs to be installed in Drupal. This makes it easy to redirect users to use the Drupal member page to change their email address or password, rather than in vBulletin. Changes in the member's information (email and password) get automatically replicated to vBulletin.
SEO	See SEO checklist project, clean URL's by default, URL structure can be changed with an aliases module.	Search friendly with per bot settings phpBB and SEO Also available: phpbb-seo	Comes with searchbot friendly archive pages. vBSEO enhances vBulletin SEO by autmoatically generating and submitting sitemaps to the popular search engines.	FluxBB 1.3 (based off PunBB 1.3, to be replaced by 1.2-based 1.4 that doesn't) supports clean URL's.
Search	Built-in	Built-in	Built-in	Built-in
Maintenance / Security / Upgradability	Update checker, but manual upgrades.	Automatic update package	Overwrite the whole system with upgraded version, and run a standard upgrade procedure which performs all upgrades automatically.	Overwrite the whole system with upgraded version, and run a standard upgrade procedure which performs all upgrades automatically.
Administration	Built-in Admin CP, can be adjusted to only provide functionality to specific user groups.	Built-in Admin and Moderator CPs	Built-in administrator and moderator control panel	Built-in Admin CP
Plug-in Architecture	Drupal's native module system (the forum is a module too)	AutoMOD	Built-in plug-in and product management system.	1.4 does not have a plugin system.
Ranking/Voting on threads/posts			Ranking and voting built-in
Karma/User Points		Karma MOD	Post Thank You Hack
Active Forum Topics Module		Drupal phpbbforum provides blocks for integration with Drupal [1]	Drupal vB provides a 'Block' (Drupal term) to display the Active Forum Topics on any Drupal page. A sample can be found at the right sidebar of the test site.	Built-in
Additional Features			Archive Calendar Gallery Social Networking Blogs Projects	Does not have subforum support out of the box. Built to be minimalistic.
Compatibility with Nginx		Yes [2]	Yes
Testing		A quick test site i created with Drupal and phpBB SSO. More features will be added. URL: http://meegotalk.tk Username: meego Password: meego	A test site has been created to test out the bridge between Drupal and vBulletin. The main objective is to test it's functionality, make sure it's stable, and iron out bugs. The test site is being opened so anyone willing to help can help test the bridge. Some items that need to be tested are the following: Registration of accounts should only be via Drupal Accounts get replicated from Drupal to vBulletin Registered members should be able to change their account details/settings on both Drupal and vBulletin Registered members should be able to change their passwords only in Drupal and not in vBulletin Single/Shared Sign On (SSO) should be working Handling of cookies Check for vBulletin registration backdoors The test site is password protected. Below are the details on how to access it: URL: http://meegotalk.com Username: meego Password: meego More information on where to report bugs and suggest features can be found at the front page of the site.
Support	Drupal forum	phpBB Community	Plug-ins, Forums, Bug Reports	Forums, Trac
Licensing	Open source	Open source	Commercial	Open source

Forum Structure

qgil has suggested to start clean and just create minimal categories for the mean time. The proposed structure are as follows:

General
Community
Development

It is intended to add company and device categories in the future as MeeGo powered devices are announced. Hopefully, the companies will assign moderators/primary contact persons to help with the forums.

Volunteers and Testers

Feel free to add yourself to the list:

Forum Software	phpBB3	vBulletin
Admnistrators	Marcin Sołtysiak/solt - +6k user forum administrator, phpBB2 though	Reggie Suplido/reggie - maemo.org talkmaster, forum administrator
Modders / Themers		Reggie Suplido/reggie - maemo.org talkmaster
Testers		Kathy Smith/RevdKathy - maemo.org forum regular Erle Pereira/eap - minimal experience with moblin, experienced with drupal Randall Arnold/Texrat - Maemo Community Council member, former Nokia QA engineer for Maemo devices and best practices blogger. Tim Samoff/timsamoff

Next steps

mshaver has suggested to run the forum on the main MeeGo.com Drupal server. Also, the main server is running Nginx.
Several suggestions have been made on the forum name and URL (link).

Retrieved from "http://wiki.meego.com/Forum_/_Talk"

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 [http://drupal.org/project/me Me Aliases] is another Drupal module project that needs to be installed in Drupal. This makes it easy to redirect users to use the Drupal member page to change their email address or password, rather than in vBulletin. Changes in the member's information (email and password) get automatically replicated to vBulletin.
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 Also available: [http://www.phpbb-seo.com/ phpbb-seo]
 | Comes with searchbot friendly archive pages. [http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/showthread.php?t=206169 vBSEO] enhances vBulletin SEO by autmoatically generating and submitting sitemaps to the popular search engines.
+|FluxBB 1.3 (based off PunBB 1.3, to be replaced by 1.2-based 1.4 that doesn't) supports clean URL's.
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+| Built-in
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 | Update checker, but manual upgrades.
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+| Overwrite the whole system with upgraded version, and run a standard upgrade procedure which performs all upgrades automatically.
 | Overwrite the whole system with upgraded version, and run a standard upgrade procedure which performs all upgrades automatically.
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 | Built-in Admin and Moderator CPs
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 | '''Plug-in Architecture'''
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 | Built-in plug-in and product management system.
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 | Ranking and voting built-in
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 | [http://www.phpbb.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=69&t=1861325 Karma MOD]
 | [http://www.vbulletin.org/forum/misc.php?do=producthelp&pid=post_thanks Post Thank You Hack]
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 | '''Active Forum Topics Module'''
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 | Drupal phpbbforum provides blocks for integration with Drupal [http://drupal.org/project/phpbbforum]
 | Drupal vB provides a 'Block' (Drupal term) to display the Active Forum Topics on any Drupal page. A sample can be found at the right sidebar of the test site.
+| Built-in
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 * Blogs
 * Projects
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+*Does not have subforum support out of the box.
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 More information on where to report bugs and suggest features can be found at the front page of the site.
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 | [http://www.vbulletin.org Plug-ins], [http://www.vbulletin.com/forum Forums], [http://www.vbulletin.com/forum/project.php Bug Reports]
+|[http://fluxbb.org/forums Forums], [http://fluxbb.org/trac/ Trac]
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 | Open source
 | Commercial
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