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1 MeeGo SDK Weekly Meeting 20110316

MeeGo SDK Weekly Meeting 20110316

This document contains agenda and minutes (added after the meeting) of SDK weekly telco meeting on 20110316 14:00 GMT.

Conventions of this document

AP: = Action point agreed on this meeting
yyyymmdd AP: = Action point agreed on previous meeting
yyyymmdd AP yyymmdd: = Action point agreed on previous meeting with a deadline
yyyymmdd AP DONE: = Action point done
yyyymmdd AP CANCELLED: = Action point cancelled
AGREE: = Item that has been agreed by the team
POSTPONED: = Agenda item postponed from last meeting
OLD: = Info from previous meeting (delete during the meeting)

Attendees

Maurice Kalinowski, Veli Kaksonen, Jan-Simon Möller,r Juha Kallioinen, Azadeh Karimian, Juha Peisanen, Taru Laine, Al Nikolov, Jackie Wu, Riku Voipio, Ville Lavonius, Arcadie Prepelita, Fathi Boudra

Agenda

SDK Program (Veli)

Nokia changes...
Moving the weekly

Features (Ville)

Architecture (Bob)

(Meetings held weekly, as needed)

http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Architecture

Topics for future meetings:

How to speed up MeeGo SDK
- Install (reduce size, target/sysroot management)
- Deploy/debug (QEMU acceleration, deploy w/o packaging, etc)
rsync: Using QEMU files for sysroot
- http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Sysroot_extension
Release process (discussion started)
Windows builds (server - http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=11762, process)
How to identify the installed MeeGo SDK version (registry key, file, gconf)

Covered in past weeks (Resolutions here: http://piratepad.net/qqICWdiYLl )

Thurs 20th Meeting
- Package group - list of devel packages in sysroot
  - Study on http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Packages_group
- Qt Creator rc1 promotion and QA

Thurs 13th Meeting
- Accomodate 3rd party libraries in addition to sysroot on Windows and Linux
- Feature 10949 - [FEA] Make the installation of MeeGo SDK for Linux easier http://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10949

- AP: Add minutes to: http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Meetings (Bob) DONE.

Releasing (Fathi)

hardfp toolchain into MeeGo Trunk
- SDK toolchain to update/promote
- AP: ks files to update - new images (Fathi)
- AP: update madde configuration for ARM toolchain (Fathi)
OLD - Toolchain broken on Fedora 14 ARM fixed, IA32 broken. FIXED by upgrading binutils, to be submitted to Tools:SDK:Host
- Full toolchain upgrade to 1.2 is on the way. Pending windows toolchain integrated.(Windows SDK is using 1.1 toolchains)
AP: Qt 4.7.2, Qt Creator 2.1.0 released - to be integrated on week 9
- Qt Creator 2.1.0 is available into devel:tools:sdk:host (week11)
- Qt 4.7.2 fails to build on rpm based distro 32 bits
AP: Qt Simulator to review and promote (Fathi)

Windows port (Max)

Max was not present
Still using 1.1 toolchains
AP: Upgrade to 1.2 toolchains Wenchao and Max on that.
- AP: ARM hardfp toolchain should be provided by Al
AP: Update to latest Qt/Qt Creator

Mac OS X port (David)

David was not present

Toolchains (JuhaK)

Toolchain meetings biweekly (http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Toolchains/Meetings#MeeGo_Toolchain_Project_Meetings)
AP: set up a wiki page in meego.com for following the performance/regression testing of toolchain
- This AP is pending because I haven't had time to do it. Target: next week
Junfeng Dong has joined Intel's toolchain team
glibc 2.12 or newer cannot be built with arm and this needs to be solved. It could require a reconfiguration of the toolchain a bit, but I'll have to figure it out. The problem is with linking some ssp (stack smashing protection) parts of the code.

Documentation (Taru)

Taru Laine is the doc team lead.
Weekly documentation telco meetings were restarted on March 3. This week's agenda is here: http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Documentation/MeetingMinutes/20110317#Agenda
Documentation backlog for MeeGo 1.2 SDK can be found here: http://wiki.meego.com/Documentation_Backlog_for_MeeGo_1.2
- Netbook related tasks have been assigned to Elliot Smith, Bob Spencer is clarifying the resources available for the other tasks that do not have owners at the moment.
In the documentation publishing process description the following section was added to describe the relationship between developer.meego.com and http://wiki.meego.com: Publishing wiki content
Unresolved issues to discuss with the SDK team:
- New feature hierarchy and its impacts on documentation
- Finding owners for the following tasks: Debugging instructions for MeeGo 1.2 SDK (currently part of Other documentations feature), Creating a Hello world application (currently part of Other documentations feature), Instructions for building MeeGo image/QEMU image (currently part of Other documentations feature)
- Timetable for MeeGo 1.2 SDK developer documentation features (based on the milestones assigned for the MeeGo 1.2 SDK features)

QA (Juha)

All QA reports at http://qa-reports.meego.com/
Feature status :
- Released :
  - total 4
  - test case exists 3
- Resolved :
  - total 19
  - testability checked 15
  - test case exists 9
- Accepted :
  - total 107
  - testability checked 9
  - test case exists 10
Testing
- Testing done last Friday for [meego-core-armv7l-madde-sysroot-1.1.90.6.20110308.5] on Ubuntu 10.10 32bit and Fedora13 32bit.
  - Results updated to http://qa-reports.meego.com/1.2/Sdk/Basic%20Feature%20Testing/N900 .
  - Still valid bugs on both distros : [#12561], [#12629], [#12853], [#13399], [#14169], [#14171]
- Testing ongoing for [meego-core-armv7l-madde-sysroot-1.1.90.7.20110315.10] on Ubuntu 10.10 32bit and Fedora13 32bit.
  - QEMU image missing.
Test transition is still in progress.
Review test cases on tl (BMC#12536)
Formalize bug handling workflow

Retrieved from "http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Meetings/20110316_Weekly"

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 = MeeGo SDK Weekly Meeting 20110316 =
-This document contains agenda and minutes (added after the meeting) of SDK weekly telco meeting on 20110316 07:30 EEST.
+This document contains agenda and minutes (added after the meeting) of SDK weekly telco meeting on 20110316 14:00 GMT.
 == Conventions of this document ==
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 == Attendees ==
-*
+* Maurice Kalinowski, Veli Kaksonen, Jan-Simon Möller,r Juha Kallioinen, Azadeh Karimian, Juha Peisanen, Taru Laine, Al Nikolov, Jackie Wu, Riku Voipio, Ville Lavonius, Arcadie Prepelita, Fathi Boudra
@@ Line 25: / Line 26: @@
 * Nokia changes...
 * Moving the weekly
-** AP: write email thread about moving the weekly
@@ Line 66: / Line 66: @@
 ** SDK toolchain to update/promote
 ** AP: ks files to update - new images (Fathi)
-* Toolchain broken on Fedora 14 ARM fixed, IA32 broken
+** AP: update madde configuration for ARM toolchain (Fathi)
-** https://bugs.meego.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13608 (Anas)
+* OLD - Toolchain broken on Fedora 14 ARM fixed, IA32 broken. FIXED by upgrading binutils, to be submitted to Tools:SDK:Host
-** build works locally but not OBS
+** Full toolchain upgrade to 1.2 is on the way. Pending windows toolchain integrated.(Windows SDK is using 1.1 toolchains)
-** Full toolchain upgrade to 1.2 is on the way. Pending windows toolchain integrated.
 * AP: Qt 4.7.2, Qt Creator 2.1.0 released - to be integrated on week 9
-* OLD - Random images broken regularly
+** Qt Creator 2.1.0 is available into devel:tools:sdk:host (week11)
-** On week 8: meego-handset-ia32-qemu, meego-netbook-ia32-qemu (Jackie)
+** Qt 4.7.2 fails to build on rpm based distro 32 bits
-** On week 9: meego-handset-ia32-qemu, meego-netbook-ia32-qemu (Jackie) Fixed in BOSS.
-** On week 10: fixed - issues resolved
-* qemu-arm and qemu-gl merge in progress
-** gles-libs update - IA32 GL ES support
 * AP: Qt Simulator to review and promote (Fathi)
-* OLD - Integrated meego-sdk-update-target and meego-sdk-checkversion into package meego-sdk-utils.
 === Windows port (Max) ===
-* MeeGo 1.2 SDK Preview 4 with shrunken Qt Simulator, latest Qt Creator and MADDE has been tested by QA.
+* Max was not present
-** Windows SDK will be released to QA every two weeks if there are enough new changes. It will take 1+ weeks for QA (1 person) to test it.
+* Still using 1.1 toolchains
-* IFW source code has been built for Windows.
+* AP: Upgrade to 1.2 toolchains Wenchao and Max on that.
-** A minor gap has been found - license page contains Qt SDK
+** AP: ARM hardfp toolchain should be provided by Al
-* server available at OSU. Al has started to set up it.
+* AP: Update to latest Qt/Qt Creator
-** A suid issue on the frontend build server - Max will follow this issue
-** Windows machine availability issue - We'll try virtual system for Windows first
 === Mac OS X port (David) ===
-* David Lawlor started in Portland, OR (Intel) on Jan 31st.
+* David was not present
-* Mac server available at OSU
-** MacOS machine availability issue
-* ARM toolchain available
-* Beta desired for MeeGo 1.2 (release in May).
-* Intel guess at release is July.  But scoping work is just starting.
-=== Toolchains (JuhaK / Jarmo) ===
+=== Toolchains (JuhaK) ===
 * Toolchain meetings biweekly (http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Toolchains/Meetings#MeeGo_Toolchain_Project_Meetings)
-* Had a telco with Linaro, meeting minutes can be found from the link above
-** discussed about toolchain selection for MeeGo 1.3 and Linaro's plans
-** gcc 4.5.2 or 4.5.3 if it comes out in time
-* We'll need to come up with a timeline proposal for MeeGo 1.3 toolchain selection
-* Intel guys are running performance/regression tests with gcc 4.5.2
-* armv8el scheduler is up and running
 * AP: set up a wiki page in meego.com for following the performance/regression testing of toolchain
+** This AP is pending because I haven't had time to do it. Target: next week
+* Junfeng Dong has joined Intel's toolchain team
+* glibc 2.12 or newer cannot be built with arm and this needs to be solved. It could require a reconfiguration of the toolchain a bit, but I'll have to figure it out. The problem is with linking some ssp (stack smashing protection) parts of the code.
 === Documentation (Taru) ===
@@ Line 121: / Line 106: @@
 * In the [http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Documentation documentation publishing process description] the following section was added to describe the relationship between developer.meego.com and http://wiki.meego.com: [http://wiki.meego.com/SDK/Documentation#Publishing_wiki_content Publishing wiki content]
 * Unresolved issues to discuss with the SDK team:
-** Documentation team members for this week's meeting.
 ** New feature hierarchy and its impacts on documentation
-** Community contribution for MeeGo 1.2 documentation, especially for ''Instructions and best practices'' and ''Sample applications''.
 ** Finding owners for the following tasks: Debugging instructions for MeeGo 1.2 SDK (currently part of Other documentations feature), Creating a Hello world application (currently part of Other documentations feature), Instructions for building MeeGo image/QEMU image (currently part of Other documentations feature)
 ** Timetable for MeeGo 1.2 SDK developer documentation features (based on the milestones assigned for the MeeGo 1.2 SDK features)
 === QA (Juha) ===
@@ Line 140: / Line 124: @@
 ** Accepted :
 *** total 107
-*** testability checked 8
+*** testability checked 9
-*** test case exists 5
+*** test case exists 10
 * Testing
 ** Testing done last Friday for [[http://repo.meego.com/MeeGo/builds/1.1.90/1.1.90.6.20110308.5/images/meego-core-armv7l-madde-sysroot/ meego-core-armv7l-madde-sysroot-1.1.90.6.20110308.5]] on Ubuntu 10.10 32bit and Fedora13 32bit.